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Sheila Mae Hunter's avatar

I apologize for the long post! Couldn't resist this subject.......

Yes we ALL need to dismantle outdated gender scripts. Amen to that!

When I was reading the post, I saw some things that were missing from the polls and research. In my 40 years as a psychotherapist and 56 years of marriage across 3 husbands, my observations are different than the 'experts'.

The polls and research are not asking men "WHY" they want a relationship, and "WHAT" they desire to get out of a relationship, breeding children and what are they grieving more of after a split up.

Here's what I've observed and experienced:

they miss playing with their kids and coaching them (especially sons, i.e., Little League baseball)

they miss clean clothes, linens, dishes that they didn't have to clean

they miss a tidy house that they didn't have to clean

they miss not doing the grocery shopping they didn't have to do

they miss home-cooked meals that they didn't cook

they now have to do all those things themselves, and

they have to pay child support (the biggest ouch - so many nasty games are played around it)

I have seen in almost all cases men drop the children from a previous marriage when they have children from a subsequent marriage. The kids from the previous marriage suffer greatly.

Sorry for the sarcasm. I would be convinced if more men took the role of partner, rather than just hide behind their wage earner/head of household identity

Girls and boys are raised differently from the crib. Boys are taught to "buck up" and "not cry" whereas girls are not disciplined when they cry over spilt milk (so to speak). I wonder, what would happen if boys and girls were raised alike? Would there be a next generation if girls were raised like boys?

Once men step up to a "partnership" role and acknowledge women earn more money than they, once hermeneutic labour is added to the mix, things have the best chance to go really well.

White men in the U.S. are now in the racial minority and they're trying like crazy to regain their superiority status and reign supreme over women and non-Whites (JD Vance, e.g.). It's going backward right now!

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LoWa's avatar

The point isn’t that men want love and relationships. The point is that they want love and relationships with no reciprocity or accountability.

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